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The Sign of the Cross

A sign of the time.. what’s in the making of the sign of the cross. On Theologically Thinking, Fr. William Chiganos discusses the sign of the cross, its meaning and the difference with the Western world.

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In this sign...
written by Michael Gillum, March 18, 2011
Anglicans are not Roman Catholic and we are not Protestant although we took some part in the Reformation. We are catholic.
Anglicans do the sign of the cross.
We can do it in the "Western" style or in the Orthodox.
To do or not to do it is a matter of personal choice.

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...its a matter of personal choice...
written by Gerasimos Kambides, March 26, 2011
in response to Michael Gillum

your comment its a matter of personal choice is specifically the problem. That is why Anglicans ordain woman, active homosexuals, pagans, worshippers of every ilk except those who would humble their hearts to the one True God, Father Son and Holy Spirit God. In the Orthodox Church we know that something is valid if it reflects, the Holy Scriptures,the teachings of the Fathers of the Church, and reflects the teaching of Holy Tradition which is the teaching of God the Holy Spirit--then it is not a matter of my personal choice, but that which has been passed to us, the very Gospel of Our Lord and God and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen
Layman; aspiring Deacon
written by Josef Kozma, April 16, 2011
I am an Anglican in the Anglican Province of America, we do not ordain women, we have no homosexual clergy, we are traditionalists, as Traditional in our Anglican faith expression as any Orthodox, I resent you Mr. Kambides, accusing me, my brothers and sisters in our Most Holy Faith of such crimes against Christ, and against the Church, check yourself before you wreck yourself Mr. Kambides, think and do a little research before you run your big mouth, may the Lord be merciful to you at the judgement and grant you much grace, more grace than you give to you brothers and sisters in Christ wsho come from a different faith tradition than you, I love the Orthodox Faith and am very heavily influenced by it in all aspects of my life as are many of my brethren in the Continuing Church movement of Anglicanism. May the Theotokos pray mightily for you that you would be powerfully protected from the Evil One and his associates and be granted the favor of God unto eternal life w Jesus and all the Holy One's in the Paradise of Heaven, In Jesus' name, do I pray, Amen
why?
written by Katerina Bennett, April 20, 2011
Dear Josef. Please forgive Gerasimos. I know where you're coming from...
I was once where you are.

Traditional faithful Anglican - but Christ wanted me to be a committed faithful Christian, His follower!
SO I had to choose - the fullness of Faith in Him or a broken branch?

From 1988 to 1994 I was with people of like mind (but not heart) trying to keep together through storms of modernisation and allowing the world to influence, calling it all the will of God.
Ecumenism, attending different "churches", seemed to be the nearest thing to it... but no fullness! No... Acts 4v32!!!!

Why does the West continue to break, and break,and split again, into ever greater bits of church, expressions, ways?!?
Josef: If you profess to hold the Orthodox faith why aren't you in communion with it?
After the schism of Anglican'ism' of 1992, what actually sent me home to Orthodoxy (beside the hunger for the fullness of Christ Himself) was the "bishop" who should've been remaining faithful to the revealed truth, Dr Carey, when he spoke of the Anglican expression as "a" church.
Like Rome, when it freed itself from Orthodoxy, the people were able to come up with many changes and call them the will of God. The criteria and measuring stick was disgarded.

It had been staring me in the face for 4 years but finally the question where is the Church, had to be acknowledged. So, freed from the "isms" to find Christ's own fullness and Life in the unchanging faith and experience of One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, The Orthdoox Faith, I found my (THE) way Home and The Pearl of Great Price!
Listen to John and Vangelis I'll Find My Way Home on youtube... and be blessed!!!
Love and peace: Catrina X X X
O Thou who hung upon the Wood of The Cross for our salvation, Christ Our God,
Have mercy upon us, and save us, for you are good, and The Lover of Mankind.
To Brother Josef Kozma
written by gerasimos kambides, April 23, 2011
Dear Mr. Kozma, if there was no guilt neither would you have resentment. The head of the Anglican Church in Britain...what shall you make of his comments that he "did not believe in the resurrection." Perhaps America is different but in Canada, the Anglican Church ordains--if that is a word which could be used-- woman and gay clergy. The Church of Christ is not Anglican, nor Prottestant. The entire concept of Faith Traditions is nothing more or less then the sword of the general Apostasy away from Christ and his One True Holy Apostiolic and Catholic Church. Unity of Faith is in the Holy Chalice, it is not in words which are secular and humanist. I admit I don't know what your continuing Church movement of Anglicanism is but I can tell you what it is not--it is not canonical and part of Holy Orthodoxy. I cannot nor will I judge what happens to your people on judgement day any more than I could with a jew or muslim or pagan. That is not my business, however it sounds as if your anger is misdirected.Perhaps it should be aimed at the majority of Episcopalians or Anglicans who do ordain woman and homosexuals etc. Perhaps it should be aimed at the filth of freemasonry within the edifice. I do not know. Tonight is the resurrection, it is Pascha, so forgive me for having offended you, it was meant not as an offense, but as a declaration of the One True Holy Apostolic and Catholic Church. If thou hast not the church as thy Mother neither has thou God as thy father.Depart now from a church of feelings and humanistic experience. If you read the Holy Fathers how can you sit on a branch theory while you rapidly saw? A couple of years ago I had a long talk with a friend of some 45 years who was an Anglican Bishop in Canada. He was retiring...can you guess the reason, because he did not want to be involved with a pseudo religion which did not know right from wrong. Perhaps the traditionalists that you belong to are not such people, but with whom are you in Communion? Please read "against False Union" and also the writings of St. Kosma the Aetolian. Also it would help you to understand the ecumenical councils of the first millenia and understand why we are also not in Communion with the Roman's. We are Catholics but not roman, we are Evangelical, but not protestant, the Faith we have is that which was passed on to us by Christ, trueMan and True God, the Holy Apostles and the Holy Father's and Mothers of the Church. Do not feel insulted when you are told you have a cancer, but do that which you can to rid yourself of it. Christ is Risen!
gerasimos+

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